Joseph Self (1889–1984)


Army Service Corps (Horse Transport) 061840

Photos courtesy Ian and Brenda Dale

Joseph Self

Joseph in later life c 1954

Joseph was born in 1889 and, like his father, worked as a gardener. He attested at Buxton in March 1915 aged twenty-four while living at Whatstandwell. He entered France in May 1915. During May 1917 he was confined to camp as punishment for not being shaven on General Officer Commanding Parade. This seemed a bit harsh, as a short time later he was hospitalised with scabies. July 1918 saw him driving with the Field Ambulance at Abbeville. He was demobbed in July 1919.

The Self family

Joe Self (1889-1984) pictured on the right, with his father, Stephen Self, and nephew, Ian Dale (circa 1954).

Joe's father - Stephen Self, Sr (1855-1957) - had three sons listed on the First World War 'Roll of Honour' inside Crich Parish Church: Charles Self (1881-1963); Joseph Self (1889-1984); and Stephen Self, Jr (1891-1932). Joe's father relocated to Crich from his native Suffolk as a young man during the 1870s and worked as a gardener at Chase Cliffe for thirty years, until 1903. He then worked as a gardener for Mrs Shore Nightingale at Lea Hurst, then later as a roadman for Belper Rural District Council. For many years the family lived at Crich Carr, then later at Robin Hood, Whatstandwell. The Self family were particularly notable for their longevity. Stephen Self, Sr passed away at Crich in 1957, aged 102. Of his twelve children, a son (Joe) and three daughters passed the age of 90, and two of the daughters - Emma and Ellen (Nellie) -  lived to 105 and 104, respectively. Also notable for longevity are Stephen Sr's older sister, Maria Daniel (passed away in Surrey in 1954, aged 100); their father, Charles Self (passed away in Suffolk in 1917, aged 93); and their grandfather, Stephen Self (passed away in Suffolk in 1875, aged 97). Joe Self was a lifelong bachelor who passed away at Chesterfield in 1984, aged 95.

Medal Roll Index Card
He was awarded the Victory, British War and 15 Star Medals.
He entered France 08/05/15.

Army Service Record
He attested 08/03/15 at Buxton, aged 24 years 1 month, an unmarried gardener with an address in Whatstandwell. His height was 5ft 7½in and weight 144lb. The next of kin was his father Stephen Self of Whatstandwell. Awarded the Victory, British War and 15 Star Medals.
07/05/15 Embarked Southampton
08/05/15 Arrived Havre
22/01/17 to 01/02/17 Granted leave
15/05/17 Awarded 7 days confined to camp – not shaven on GOC Parade
03/06/17 Admitted to hospital with scabies
12/06/17 To duty
06/07/18 To 1st Adv H.T, Depot Abbeville for duty with Field Ambulance
30/07/19 Demobbed

1939 Register: Sun Lane, Crich
Stephen Self b.22 january 1855; retired gardener
Sarah Self b.2 May 1858
Joseph Self (single) b. 20 February 1889; jobbing gardener


1901: Crich Carr

Forename Surname Relationship Age Occupation Where born
Stephen Self Head 47 Gardener, domestic Suffolk
Sarah Self wife 42   Crich
Charles Self son 20   Crich Carr
Mary Ann Self daughter 18 Hosiery mending room Crich Carr
Emma Self daughter 16 Hosiery mending room Crich Carr
John Self son 15 Labourer Crich Carr
Samuel Self son 13 Fish dealer Crich Carr
Joseph Self son 12 School Crich Carr
Harriet Self daughter 11 School Crich Carr
Stephen Self son 9 School Crich Carr
Elizabeth Self daughter 7 School Crich Carr
Ellen Self daughter 6 School Crich Carr

RG13 piece 3231 folio 47 page 13

1911: Chatsworth Road, Brampton

Forename Surname Relationship Age Occupation Where born
Stephen Self Head 58 Gardener Swifling, Suffolk
Sarah Self wife 53   Crich
Joseph Self son 22 Gardener Crich Carr
Harriet Self daughter 21 Frame hand bitter, Lea Mills Crich Carr
Stephen Self son 19 Wool ?, Lea Mills Crich Carr
Ellen Self daughter 16 Drapery Assistant Crich Carr

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