Joseph Baggaley Bramall (1874–1918)

Acting Sergeant

Royal Fusiliers 8673
21st Service Battalion;
29th Battalion B Coy

Medal Roll Index Card

No medals shown on his card. Date of enlistment was 18 September 1915, and date of discharge 3 June 1916. His rank was Private. He was discharged through sickness Para 392 xvi of King's Regulations.

Silver War Badge

8673 Private, Bramall Joseph Baggalley; 29 Btn, badge 80041; enlisted 18.9.15 discharged 3.6.16, sickness

Service Record

Joseph attested on 18 September 1915 at Penham Down, aged 42 years 2 months, a retired butcher with an address of "The Sycamores" in Crich. He had previously served seven years in the Derbyshire Yeomanry. His height was 5ft 7½in, and he had grey eyes, grey hair and a fresh complexion. The next-of-kin was Mrs Ellen Bramall, Cockpit Hill, Derby – his mother. He stated he was C of E. On 16 May 1898 he married Ida [Ada] Carline Wass in Nottingham (address unknown). They had two children; Ellen Josephine (born 28 February 1899) and Joseph Baggaley (born September 1902).
Joseph was posted acting sergeant on 18 September 1915 but discharged a Private, as no longer physically fit for active service on 3 June 1916. At this time his wife's abode was unknown. A note in the file stated: The attached D.418a is returned to you please, I am unable to verify same as the address of the wife, is unknown, even to the soldier and the certificates therefore cannot be obtained. Hounslow Infantry Records.
He received his Silver War Badge on 30 November 1916 at The Sycamores, Crich. A weekly pension request was rejected on 15 June 1916. His military character was exemplary

Previously Joseph had served in the Boer War as Sergeant (5062) Imperial Yeomanry Company (Derbyshire), Unit 8.. He was awarded the Queen's South Africa Medal with clasps for Wittebergen, Cape Colony, Transvaal, South Africa 1901.

With thanks to Nivard Ovington


1881: Thorn Tree, Derby

Forename Surname Relationship Age Occupation Where born
John W Bramall Head 37 Licenced Victualler Sheffield
Ellen Bramall wife 33   North Wingfield
Joseph Bramall son 6   Ockbrook
John W Bramall son 2mo   Derby

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1891:Cockpit Hill, Derby

Forename Surname Relationship Age Occupation Where born
Joseph B Bramall Head 17 Bait stable keeper assistant Ockbrook

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1911:Cockpit Hill, Derby

Forename Surname Relationship Age Occupation Where born
Ellen Bramall Head (wdw) 64 Bait stable keeper North Wingfield
Joseph Baggaley Bramall son (married) 36 School attendance officer Ockbrook
Mary Elizabeth Bramall daughter in law 34   Derby
Frances Ellen Baggaley Bramall daughter 24   Spondon
Mary Elizabeth Baggaley sister (single) 66   North Wingfield

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It appears that Joseph's marriage had broken down. In 1911 his wife and children were living in Nottingham with his mother-in-law. In 1916 he was living at The Sycamores in Crich.